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Add comment in the FBI section regarding the FBI's actions against other integrationist and segregationist groups as described in Donner's "The Age of Surveillance". Possible there was a clandestine policy to suppress all "serious" racial agitation, integrationist and segregationist. Also, possible it was felt racial agitation could not be tolerated during the Cold War. It seems obvious there was animosity toward Dr. King on Hoover's part but there may be more to it than that.
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There is a typo in the first sentence of the second paragraph of the "Christianity" subsection of the "Ideas, influences and political stances". The text reads "thinkers who influeced King's [...]". HipsterPeanuts (talk) 23:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As discussed and agreed by most in Archive 12, this is a request to have the words "people of color" which is said in the first paragraph of the article, changed to "African-American". As mentioned in Archive 12, the main objective of the protests at that time were for the rights of African-Americans, not Asian-Americans or Latin Americans. Additionally, the term itself 'people of color' is in a way exclusionary of Asian-Americans, Latin Americans, and even African-Americans (of mixed ethnicity) who are "white" skinned. Both Asian-Americans and Latin American communities do not want to be called 'people of color'.
The term "African-American" has precedent in many other articles, and even used in this article. 2600:1700:4A51:C010:796F:7DFE:8B4D:8CB5 (talk) 20:26, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why isn't his history of plagiarism discussed in the lead? Indeed there is nothing negative about him at all in the lead. Doesn't strike me as very balanced!
The plagiarism is mentioned in the body but the tone is noticeably forgiving, seemingly intended to exculpate him.
An academic inquiry in October 1991 concluded that portions of his doctoral dissertation had been plagiarized and he had acted improperly. However, "[d]espite its finding, the committee said that 'no thought should be given to the revocation of Dr. King's doctoral degree,' an action that the panel said would serve no purpose."The committee found that the dissertation still "makes an intelligent contribution to scholarship." A letter is now attached to the copy of King's dissertation in the university library, noting that numerous passages were included without the appropriate quotations and citations of sources.[94] Significant debate exists on how to interpret King's plagiarism.
Undue weight is given to the decision of the committee to not revoke the degree rather the content of his plagiarism itself, which in reality was massive and sustained throughout his academic career. Words like "debate" and euphemisms like "improper" are used to suggest that his conduct was not a big deal. JDiala (talk) 00:17, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not lead worthy. Rather, your statement seems unbalanced. He was never an academic, he got a professional doctorate and was a working pastor at that time. Nor is this anything he is really known for. Alanscottwalker (talk) 15:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with JDiala on this. In fact, more emphatically than s/he stated. We have a whole article on King's plagiarism: Martin Luther King Jr. authorship issues. It's absence here can be nothing other than a cover-up. See the many notes and refs at that article.
Nikkimaria and Alanscottwalker, I've worked with you in the past on numerous American history articles and have always appreciated your knowledge and balance. Here, though, you both come across as disingenuous: yes, since the body downplays the plagiarism, it's not lead-worthy, but the body, and subsequently, the lead, need to be amended; King is certainly known for habitual plagiarism. YoPienso (talk) 13:45, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing disingenuous in what I said. I already knew there was that other article and knew what it says, which confirmed me in my analysis. Your argument is even more unbalanced than the prior one. It's as if you know nothing about this subject, if you think this issue comprises what he is known for. And no the body does not downplay anything, it contextualizes it per the sources as required by NPOV. This is an encyclopedia biography article not a hobbyhorse for peculiar fixations. Alanscottwalker (talk) 18:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wow. This biting retort isn't the Alanscottwalker I remember. I think we can work together more collegially than this. If the word "disingenuous" offended you, I apologize.
Moving forward, King's plagiarism being well known and significant to his legacy, I suggest we weight it more heavily in this biography. YoPienso (talk) 19:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is not the way to be collegial. If you had come with full biography encyclopedia articles and excellent biography books that gave this thing a much wider play (I doubt they exist), we could discuss them, but otherwise your sweeping statements about this facet in an incredibly eventful life appear unbalanced under NPOV. Alanscottwalker (talk) 19:32, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait. You're saying you're aware of the other article, but that I need to present here in this discussion many RSs? In my first comment, I said, "See the many notes and refs at that article."
This is a weight issue in a full biography, not a particular facet article. As I said, provide full biography sources that weight it differently than we do (encyclopedia biography, whole biography books). I don't think you will find a full biography that begins with this, which is what you are arguing we should do, in a lead. Alanscottwalker (talk) 20:24, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Done, thank you, good find. Randy Kryn (talk) 06:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
